Paper Army MTO (id:#56666)
Sarandoporo River Valley, Greece
1940-11-03 (2 others)
Designer: Brian Youse
Starter kit scenario?: Deluxe scenario?:
Balance:
GreekItalian
Overview:
Determined to present Hitler with a fait accompli in the Balkans, Mussolini launched another ill-advised, ill-planned and ill-informed campaign, this time from Albania into the mountains of Epirus, Pindus, and Macedonia, just in time for winter. The Italian offensive was launched on October 28th in a driving rain that negated any air cover. . .Attacker: Greek (Greek Army Mountaineers)
Defender: Italian (3rd Alpini Division)
5.5 turns
Players: 2 OBA: None Night: NoUnit Counts: |
Squads: A:12.0 D:11.5 |
AFVs: A:0 |
AFVs: D:0 |
Guns: A:0 D:0 |
Misc Rules: | Grain in Season. D: MMG begins malfunctioned, no repair attempt until Turn 2. |
Map Board(s): |
Publication | Board |
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ASL Starter Kit #2 | x |
ASL Starter Kit #2 | x |
Overlays: | NONE |
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Date | Reporter | Opponent | Bal. | Result | Comments | |
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2024-02-13 | (A) Alejandro Barreiro | vs | Greek win | |||
2024-01-18 | (D) Enrico Croce | vs | Enrico Croce | Greek win | ||
2023-11-04 | (A) Klara Kundzicz | vs | Benjamin Steinberg | Greek win | Won, a bit boring and i flanked the Italian with the second reinforcements. Kinda interesting but the geoboard is really a weird design and boring overall! | |
2023-07-31 | (A) Justin DiSabatino | vs | Self | Greek win | A very interesting scenario to play with the Italians having to sprint across the map in order to have any chance of winning. A few squads were left to break up the Greeks as they came on board to slow pursuit, which did help, but the Greek reinforcements came on as early as possible, letting the Greeks set up to net the Italians as they attempted to run across the grain field. The Italians managed only 4 VPs, but using the Italian balance might make the difference. | |
2023-04-24 | (D) Andreas R | vs | Jenny | A | Greek win | |
2023-02-16 | (A) Brett wxyz | vs | Greek win | |||
2023-02-13 | (D) Brett wxyz | vs | Italian win | |||
2023-01-23 | (D) J. Brach | vs | Italian win | Interesting scenario. This is an exercise in fast infantry movement tactics (under fire!). The ASLSK version of "Fighting Withdrawal". It seems that it is very hard for the Italians to win against a competent Greek pursuit, but I can see that the scenario would become much more balanced if BOTH balance options are taken: the board shortened to A-Y AND the Greek reinforcements entering no later than turn 3. | ||
2023-01-23 | (D) J. Brach | vs | Italian win | Interesting scenario. This is an exercise in fast infantry movement tactics (under fire!). The ASLSK version of "Fighting Withdrawal". It seems that it is very hard for the Italians to win against a competent Greek pursuit, but I can see that the scenario would become much more balanced if BOTH balance options are taken: the board shortened to A-Y AND the Greek reinforcements entering no later than turn 3. | ||
2022-11-30 | (A) Damien Edele | vs | Chris | Greek win | We played this scenario with full ASL rules. This was a fun one, but very hard for the Italian side, especially with the Greek reinforcements. | |
2022-07-01 | (A) Alberto Pomar | vs | David | Greek win | ||
2022-06-08 | (D) Shane Pask | vs | Greek win | After playing full ASL for a while, it is hard to remember which rules to ignore when playing SK scenarios. This may affect play balance but in this scenario Italians would be pushed even if there were no Greeks opposing them. It is a long way to go in 6 turns. Even with some poor rolls by the Greeks on the last turn, the Italians could only manage 6 VP. | ||
2022-04-10 | (A) Eric Partizan Eric | vs | Italian win | |||
2022-03-04 | (D) Craig Renier | vs | Jim Liang | Italian win | The Italians left a strong covering force behind to delay the pursuing Greek troops. The delay was effective giving the remainder of the Italians some breathing room to dash across the southern side of the battle field. The Greek reinforcements arrived on Turn 3 and entered on the south side. The Italians were able to break one of the reinforcing MMCs who never rallied the remainder of the scenario. In addition, a timely shot from an Italian MMC broke a pursuing Greek SMC and two MMCs. This provided an opening for exit. On Turn 5 the Italians stormed the breach and survived all Greek DFF exiting enough VPs for a win. | |
2022-03-03 | (A) Jim Liang | vs | Craig Renier | Italian win | ||
2022-02-06 | (A) Richard Jenulis | vs | Joseph Novak | Greek win | ||
2021-08-24 | (A) César Moreno | vs | Juno29 | Greek win | ||
2021-02-07 | (A) Kamil Dziarmaga | vs | Italian | Greek win | ||
2021-02-06 | (A) Russell Dewhurst | vs | [Solo] | Draw | ||
2021-01-24 | (D) Richard Jenulis | vs | Joseph Novak | Greek win | Joseph's first VASL game. | |
2020-12-15 | (A) Igor Stolyarenko | vs | Igor Lukyanov | Greek win | ||
2020-12-15 | (D) Igor Luckyanov | vs | Igor Stolyarenko | Greek win (VASL Log) | Still waiting for my VASSAL dice to be as ones of my opponents. | |
2020-08-25 | (A) Ian Mann | vs | Ash Tennant | Greek win | ||
2020-07-05 | (D) Craig Renier | vs | Keith Hiljus | Italian win | Greeks attempted opening move into 2 residual which ended up being devastating. The Greek flanking units set up an effective block, but the rest of the Greek force could not catch up giving the Italians enough space to exit on Turn 5. | |
2020-05-20 | (A) Vilis Pavulans | vs | Benjamin Steinberg | Greek win | Very tough scenario for the Italians. Have no idea about how the Italians are supposed to win this. | |
2020-01-11 | (D) John Smith | vs | Scott | Italian win | A wacky scenario. It's reported as being very unbalanced, so we gave the Italians the balance rule. Victory, IMO, hinges on 2 things. First, the Italians cannot dawdle, the majority of their units have to be moving at all times, never Prep firing, and moving CX every chance. If they don't it's impossible to exit. It's literally a sprint. Leave a few squads in strategic locations as delaying forces. Second, if the Greek get their reinforcements on turn 2 you might as well just end the scenario. The Italians are easy to break and have horrible ELR. If the Greek don't get reinforcements until turn 4 the Italians can win. Was still a fun "hide and seek", hot pursuit type of scenario. | |
2019-12-14 | (D) Jacob Elmqvist | vs | Ingemar Gardell | Greek win | ||
2019-12-13 | (A) JP Laurio | vs | Greek win | |||
2019-11-02 | (A) Dmitry Klyuykov | vs | Anton Ivlev | Greek win | Very poor one-sided scenario design by Brian Youse, like other his scenarios. | |
2019-07-06 | (A) Owen Edwards | vs | Solitaire | Greek win | ||
2018-06-09 | (A) David Wiesenhahn | vs | David Garvin | Greek win | ||
2017-10-14 | (D) Vic Lauterbach | vs | JM | Greek win | SK warm up for ASL 90 Pride and Joy. I forgot that in SK building P7-08 has no upper level, so MMG couldn't fire over the grain at Greek squads on the I1-Q1 road! I got one 8-0 and three squads off at CC10, but the Greek flanking force wiped out a 7-0 and two squads at W4, and I needed to exit 3 of those 5 points. This one comes down to when the Greek reinforcements arrive (GT3 in this case). | |
2017-05-25 | (D) Louis Langdeau | vs | Andrew S | Draw | Woopsies! We completely misread the Greek entry rules. Marking this an incomplete to avoid messing up statistics, since it completely threw off this scenario. Not really sure what the Italians are supposed to do here, although that could be inexperience showing. We looked at the balance beforehand, and decided to give the Italians their balance adjustment. Honestly though, it didn't seem to matter. Post game discussions led me to conclude that the issue with this one is two part. One, the map is horrible for this. There's no real way for the Italians to approach the Greek force that doesn't eventually devolve into them charging into a Greek line. The Italians don't have enough troops to try and overwhelm the Greeks, and any shooting match is going to heavily favor the Greeks, especially if the Italians don't fix their gun. Two, the Greek reinforcements are super punishing. The ability for them to come in to flank, reinforce, or just block the Italians makes this feel massively out of whack. I feel like this scenario is deeply flawed, but I'm interested to see whether there is an AAR somewhere that would prove me wrong. | |
2017-05-20 | (A) Seumas Hoskins | vs | Dean | Greek win | ||
2017-03-29 | (A) santiago jimenez | vs | Bud Nicola | Greek win | ||
2017-01-21 | (A) Jeff B | vs | Bronson Barnhart | Greek win | Like many random-die-roll scenarios, this one just feels gamey. If the Greeks don't get their reinforcements until Turn 4 I think it's an Italian victory; if they get them Turn 3 or earlier I don't see how the Italians can win. | |
2016-09-10 | (A) David Garvin | vs | Craig Stark | Greek win | ||
2016-07-27 | (D) Tom Abromaitis | vs | Draw | Greek win. Solo. | ||
2015-08-16 | (D) JP Laurio | vs | Herb | Greek win | ||
2015-07-21 | (A) JP Laurio | vs | Ron | Greek win | ||
2014-10-07 | (D) Aaron Sibley | vs | Neil Martin | Italian win | Greeks held up by rear guard and flanking force over whelmed. | |
2014-04-04 | (D) J M | vs | Greek win | |||
2014-02-14 | (D) Merric Blackman | vs | Michael Elshaug | Greek win | Very close game which Michae won by managing to keep one of my squads in melee; I lost by one point! | |
2013-01-06 | (D) Michael Focht | vs | David Garber | Italian win | ||
2012-10-20 | (D) Tyson Arnold | vs | Ed Brogden | Italian win | Fun scenario, it came right down the end. Barely exited what I needed. I'd play again! | |
2012-09-29 | (D) O Ramaille | vs | Greek win | The Italians let some squads and half-squads behind to slow the advancing Greek army with relativs success. Seven squads and 3 Italian leaders were running in the grain field when flanking elements of the Greek army appeared in the woods in front of them. The Italians split forces in order to bypass greek resistance and go further west. The southern group managed to exit by the west side. However, the Northern group suffer precise machine gun fire and did not exit in time. Only 3 squads and 2 leaders exited, 8 VPs not enough to achieve victory. | ||
2012-06-10 | (D) Dan Best | vs | Sarah Sackett | Greek win | ||
2011-04-17 | (D) Luke Sineath | vs | Markus Klaas | Italian win | ||
2011-04-17 | (D) Luke Sineath | vs | Italian win | |||
2011-04-09 | (D) Luke Sineath | vs | Markus Klaus | Italian win | ||
2010-07-09 | (D) Miikka Sohlman | vs | Matti Holsti | Greek win | ||
2010-07-05 | (D) Paul Messina | vs | Julian Davis | Greek win | ||
2010-06-30 | (D) Kermit Mullins | vs | Scott Waites | Greek win | Italians got 6 VP off the board edge...but it wasn't enough. Greek reinforcements successfully cut off retreat. | |
2010-06-15 | (D) Paul Jaschke | vs | Greek | Italian win | I took the Italian balance because the unbalanced results on ROAR. Made it pretty easy b/c opponent didn't get reinforcements. Would definitely play again because it is totally different from any other Starter Kit games I've played. | |
2010-01-24 | (D) Paul Messina | vs | Martin Marquis | Greek win | Super sceanrio and one that you must consider playing. Although I lost as the Italian player, I was in control of most of the match until I made an unfortunate move (I moved a stack, which I know better then to do) and a stray 2 FP -1 shot waxed half the stack. My opponent was very skillful as the Greek player and continuously delayed my withdrawl. Great match. | |
2009-10-22 | (A) Aaron Sibley | vs | Daryl Sims | Italian win | ||
2009-07-25 | (D) Till Ü-F | vs | Greek win | |||
2009-07-25 | (D) Till Ü-F | vs | Greek win | |||
2009-07-25 | (D) Till Ü-F | vs | Greek win | |||
2009-07-25 | (D) Till Ü-F | vs | Greek win | |||
2009-05-13 | (D) Till Ü-F | vs | Greek win | |||
2009-05-13 | (D) Till Ü-F | vs | Greek win | |||
2009-04-25 | (D) Luke Sineath | vs | Charlotte Tyner | Greek win | ||
2009-03-25 | (D) Paul Jaschke | vs | Rick | Greek win | Really interesting scenario. It was my first against a very experienced opponent and as a result I lost badly. I would definitely play again and leave some squads behind to cut the Greeks down as they enter the board. I think the Italians could win if they did this. | |
2009-01-17 | (D) Steven Pow Jr | vs | Chris Brown | Greek win | Got a huge start early, but got really slowed down by his flanking squad, making it impossible for me to get the win. | |
2008-10-16 | (D) Rami Saarinen | vs | SA | Greek win | Uh oh?? | |
2007-03-12 | (A) Larry Davidson | vs | Brian Devitt | Italian win | ||
2007-03-12 | (A) Larry Davidson | vs | Brian Devitt | Italian win | ||
2007-03-12 | (D) Larry Davidson | vs | Brian Devitt | Greek win | ||
2007-03-12 | (D) Larry Davidson | vs | Brian Devitt | Greek win | ||
2007-03-12 | (D) Larry Davidson | vs | Brian Devitt | Greek win | ||
2007-02-17 | (D) Allen Evenson | vs | Mike Rensing | Greek win | Conquest NW ASLSK Tourney Rnd2 | |
2006-07-16 | (A) Martí Cabré | vs | Gèrman Argerich | Greek win | The game ended at the last roll die of the last action of the last turn, with a 50% chance to each side. So it was really balanced and fun. | |
2006-01-24 | (A) simon jones | vs | Keith Todd | Greek win | ||
2005-11-27 | (D) Jesus Pie | vs | ArnauPiePalau | Greek win |
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AlexB Added a playing | 2024-02-15 12:12:37 |
AlexB Rated the scenario | 2024-02-15 12:11:30 |
Amerigus Crux Added a playing | 2024-02-04 21:23:24 |
Klara Added a playing | 2023-12-09 18:02:27 |
Turuk Added a playing | 2023-07-31 01:44:37 |
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The Italians were very lucky, Greeks missed their both final IFT4 -2 shots (and the MG has malfunctioned a turn earlier...). (Italian delaying force got shattered, but bought enough time for the main body to get to the objective.png) | After Action Report | jbrachson | 215 |
Greek infantry conduct a bayonet charge (aera40.jpg) | Image | King Billy | 1278 |
(greek-ital.png) | Image | hoxson1 | 880 |
(paper army map.png) | Image | hoxson1 | 765 |
VASL Log file () | VASL Game Log | owenedwards | 649 |
VASL Log file (hjB1rNhpYOQ.jpg) | VASL Game Log | Igor Luckyanov | 552 |
VASL Log file (hjB1rNhpYOQ.jpg) | VASL Game Log | Igor Luckyanov | 531 |
VASL Log file (hjB1rNhpYOQ.jpg) | VASL Game Log | Igor Luckyanov | 543 |
(s10.jpg) | Map Image | Twirling | 1245 |
Situation at end of GT5 (S10 end of GT5.JPG) | Map Image | dieneuner25 | 768 |
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