Second Thoughts ETO (id:#61779)
(Best of Friends ID: BoF11)
Prior Publication: FrF08 Friendly Fire Pack 1
See Also: Second Thoughts by Friendly Fire
Designer: Mattias Rönnblom
Starter kit scenario?:    Deluxe scenario?:
 
Balance:
German (SS)American
58.333333333333%

Overview:

The first objective of Operation Nordwind, Hitler's last major offensive in the west, was to secure a path through the Low Vosges mountains to the Alsatian plains. One possible path ran through Wingen-sur-Moder. Kampfgruppe Wingen was tasked to seize the village.---In "Second Thoughts" SS-Gebirgs-Jäger and a captured M8 HMC meet a tiny American infantry force defending Heidenneck outside Wingen. The Americans are ready to give up arms, but change their minds as they receive unexpected armored reinforcements, which enable them to counter-attack and retake Heidenneck and maybe even break through to the now German-held Wingen itself with the tanks.
Attacker: German (SS) (Kompanie 5, Bataillon I, SS-Gebirgsjäger-Regiment 12, SS-Gebirgs-Division 6 “Nord,” Kampfgruppe Wingen and Captured M8 HMC)
Defender: American (1271st Engineer Combat Battalion and Service Troops of 179th Infantry Regiment and Company B, 781st Tank Battalion and Company l, 276th Infantry Regiment, 70th Infantry Division, Task Force Herren)  
7 turns
    Players: 2     OBA: None     Night: No
Unit Counts:
Squads: A:7.0 D:13.0
AFVs: A:1
M8 HMC

D:3
M4A3 x 2
M4A3(76)W

Guns: A:0 D:0

Victory Conditions:

Exit VP: Building Control VC: Area Control VC:
Unit Based VC: LOS Style VC: CVP Cap:
Misc Rules: GS. A: Infantry have WC. M8 crew is Inexperienced but suffers no use penalties
Map Board(s): 49
Overlays: RR8 St1
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DateReporterOpponentResultComments
2021-01-13(D) Kermit Mullins vs Dan Best American winDan Best and I squared off in this battle of who could roll the worst. The first three turns were a frustration for us both as our rolls kept both of us in the fight, but away from achieving necessary objectives. The American armor was poorly led (by me) and I lost on Sherman out of reckless behavior and very nearly the other two tanks. Dan secured two multi-hex buildings, but then his 9-2 and 2 x 8-3-8's and a 3-3-8 were stuck there for the duration. Meanwhile his surviving forces were pummeled by the reinforcing Americans. The Americans got one Sherman off and then the German M8 came on and briefly dueled with the Firefly before being destroyed. The Firefly made a run for the exit on Turn 7 and managed to pass through panzerfaust alley unscathed for the American win.
2021-01-13(A) Dan Best vs Kermit Mullins American win
2019-01-01(A) Jason Wert vs Roy Connelly American winNice matchup with Roy on the Road to Berlin. I swept in as the Germans but was content to get buildings as opposed to risking troops to hurting the Americans. This proved a mistake with the surviving troops adding a weight to the attack that we couldnt turn back.
2016-10-23(D) Gordon Jupp vs Stuart Brant American winVASL. Stuart wanted another crack at this one but as the Germans this time. It turned out to be another tight encounter,coming down to the last US Mph when I managed to get two of the AFV's off, running a gauntlet of PF checks and attacks, fortunatelt for me I was able to use smoke effectively and the To Hit attempts were extremely hard...Well worth a play :)
2016-02-21(D) Gordon Jupp vs Nick Holmshaw German (SS) winGreat little scenario which went down to the last CC, the Germans holding on in melee in their last building for the win - I kept the US tanks intact so that I had two opportunities to win but the Germans were too handy with their Panzerfausts!
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Wingen-sur-Moder battle
 
Statistics:
Avg Rating: 7.45Votes: 11
Views: 702
To-Play list count: 2
Estimated Play time: 4.3 hours
Recorded Games: 9
Archive recorded plays:
German (SS)5
American4
Drawn:0

ROAR Data: (as of Nov 2019)
Second Thoughts [Confirmed]
[A] German 16
[D] American 11
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